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Seems Whitefield has turned up for sale at our Marina -
at least according to the post here-
The brokers web site has fallen over so it's not possible to see at the mo.
edit to add - anybody know why my link hasn't gone ''clicky'??
This is propbably the most extrem example but here is the stuff on the boat I referd to:
I understand the thing is for sale at over 80% less than it cost.
Many comments by seasoned narrowboaters here:
Even if you stick with a traditional outside shape and design "yacht" type interiors are more likley to be a problem rather than an asset when it come stime to sell.
I posted my initial question on this site with more than a little trepidation as I knew I was entering a world about which I knew next to nothing & had no idea of what might happen.
So now I must offer my sincere thanks to Tony Brooks, pponting & moonie for taking the time to reply. I have read, & re-read your questions/answers & taken all that you have said on-board.
To clarify what I was attempting to convey, the ideas that I have are all to do with interior style, rather than layout.
In what is obviously a limited amount of 'volume', what I am trying to think really hard about is using natural light & colour (along with sensible use of mirrors) to maximum advantage to create the greatest possible feeling of space.
Cost at this point in time is not my highest priority -though I don't have money to burn, I am prepared to spend what it takes to get it right. (However with the way the our beloved leaders & the economy may go in the next few years, this may change ...!)
Timewise, I'm in the fortunate position of being to able to do exactly what all three replies have intimated at - don't rush, take your time, & look at anything & everything.
The most gratifying thing after posting my initial questions is that you have confirmed what I initially thought - & it is that there are people out there who know what they are talking about & are prepared to share their knowledge/experiences.
Further posts will eventually follow about everything from solar panels, the use of reclaimed materials & a host of other things that I haven't even yet thought of!
Once again, thanks to those who have contributed thus far ... you've given me a feeling of positivity about this adventure ...
You don't realy say what you mean by design, it it layout, style or features? And as Tony said how much are you looking to spend?
What I would recommend that you have a clear and detailed plan of what you are looking for before you approach a builder and most definately before you commission a builder / fitter, otherwise you will be writing one on the many "where it all went wrong" blogs.
When "we" built Bluemoon (I fitted it out from a sailaway), I had very clear plans for the layout and the style we wanted, no misunderstanding with the builder in the shell, lining, engine, etc.
Have a look at http://www.sorion-group.com/nb-bluemoon/Design.htm I used a free design package and we were armed with our plans before we got into discussions with the potential builder(s). Yes we did change things as we went along, but there is nothing worse than a blank peice of paper.
Best of luck
We had a similar scenario when we were looking for a narrowboat.
It really depends on your specific requirements. Almost anything is achievable on a narrowboat.
Our way round it was to visit boat shows, see a basic design which is in some way similar to the design you wish. You then speak to those people and have the specifications you want added.
You can pay £1000's to a designer, which could be counter preductive if somebody who has a basic design you like can alter it to suit your needs at a fraction of the cost.
It took us 5 years to find the basic design we liked, and we are really pleased with the final result. So do not rush into it and buy something you will later regret
I can not help with your direct question and even if I could I have some doubts if it would be wise to until we had a better idea about your financial position. Much depends on how much money you can afford to throw away.
First of all the vast majority of experienced boaters would advise that you buy secondhand and try things before you buy new. Its amazing how much ones views change once you try living on a boat for a while.
Narrowboats have evolved over at least 40 years for leisure craft and, apart from minor differences, have arrived a few similar designs because those design work. making major variations is probably more likely to be counterproductive than an advance.
Every few years yet another "novel" designs is built and a comparatively short time later one finds it on the market - usually at a massive discount. There was one shown at Crick in 2009 (I think) which was illustrates my point. I can not remember its name but I am sure another reader will.
Finally the resale value of "individualistic" boats tends to be very much reduced and may be very hard to sell at any sensible price.
Please think hard and take care.
O.K., from the outset (as you will see from my 'Narrowboatvirgin1' name), much of this is new to me.
Many of you who bother to read further than the next paragraph will maybe laugh, wring your hands & go 'Hah, this bloke knows nothing ...' BUT ... I do have some experience of the inland waterways of this wonderful country & am, in the next few years, going to purchase a boat & live out my days exploring this green & pleasant land. (Probably more wringing if hands, laughter etc., etc., ...)
So, having spent months looking at the multitude of narrowboats that are for sale, I am swiftly realising that no-one has, or is likely in the foreseeable future, to have anything for sale that I would wish to purchase.
As a consequence I am coming to the conclusion that the only way I am going to be able to achieve what I see in my head is to start from square one & have one built.
My question is this - can anyone out there recommend a narrowboat interior designer who would be willing to really listen to what I would like. If my ideas ultimately prove way off the mark then so be it - I am prepared to be told that if what I envisage isn't possible.
But I don't believe that what I'm thinking is impossible, it just doesn't happen to involve kettles with roses etc ....
Does anyone out there know someone who is prepared to help design an interior that is both functional & (as far as I know) somewhat different to anything that I have thus far come across?!?
Who knows, this could be a benchmark for something completely different ... I really think it could be ...
Who I'm looking for is someone with a bit of vision who won't try & tell me what THEY think I need - rather someone who is prepared to go out on a limb a little & be just a little bit out of the ordinary ...
I await all replies with interest & thank all contributors -