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 Subject :Re: Give CART a chance..
02-08-2012 04:35:55 
Matt Black
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Some would say CART has been around for ages. Until it was re-branded recently it was known as British Waterways!

Has anyone seen a business plan or budget for 2012/13 yet?

Matt

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31-07-2012 00:00:14 
Allan
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CART has been here for a fortnight and you're saying they've already failed to attract contributors!  Maybe we should give them a teensy weensy bit longer before passing judgement? Tongue out


CART may have been only going a few weeks but the CART trustees have been in place for over a year.

Long enough to pass judgement!

It is CART themselves that are saying that they will fail to attract (and retain) contributors in sufficient numbers to cover costs.

What CART are saying is that they will lose £1,200,000 on charitable giving over the next three years (primarily due to the high costs of face to face fundraising using chuggers).

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Allan

 

 

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 Subject :Re: Give CART a chance..
24-07-2012 18:15:41 
CanalFan
Joined: 2009-11-19 11:37:50
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CART has been here for a fortnight and you're saying they've already failed to attract contributors!  Maybe we should give them a teensy weensy bit longer before passing judgement? Tongue out

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 Subject :Re: Give CART a chance..
24-07-2012 17:46:07 
Dave K
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Maybe we would trust CaRT better if they ever mentioned boats when they speak publicly. Most of us also doubt the ability for the same management responsible for the many failing in financial and maintenance matters to change. When senior trustees are wasting thousands of boater's money on failed attempts to interest contributors to the charity and lie about things they say they have commissioned but not done so, how can we boaters have confidence in what will happen? What particularly rankles with many is the complete failure to have anyone from a boating organisation represented anywhere within CaRT. I am fully aware there are many people within CaRT who have boats but when it comes down to it will they choose boater's interests, or those of the organisations they belong to. Some of whom owe their place to that organisation. Yes we will wait and see but not quietly when we see fit to speak out.

PS I love the description (in David Hymer's piece today) of employees now being "Carters". I'm sure it will stick !

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 Subject :Give CART a chance..
24-07-2012 16:32:39 
CanalFan
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I'm going to say something controversial - but I know I am among friends here and none of us is scared of telling it like it is.

How is the constant knocking of CART really helping the waterways?  It is less than 2 weeks old and some people just don't seem to want to give it a chance, which is a bit sad. I know lots of people who are genuinely excited about the move and can see real opportunities to get involved and change things for the better.  Are they ALL idiots? Have they ALL had the wool pulled over their eyes? Are the contributers of NBW the ONLY people in world who are right?

Lots of people will only be happy when they see Robin Evans' head on stick but if you stop and think about it, how many ££££s would it cost the Trust to get rid of him, even if they wanted to? Doesn't it make sense for the Trustees to keep the management in place in the short term and change things gradually rather than chuck out the baby with the bathwater.  If you look at the age of CART's directors, most of them are coming up for retirement anyway.

Our dear old Allan Richards seems to know everything but, with respect, I wouldn't want him put in charge of the ship.

In the words of Del Brenner "we entrust that any expectations we may have of the potential of the new waterways management are not disappointed, and that they turn over a new leaf so that our canals flourish and navigate smoothly into the future."

Maybe they can do this quicker and better if we ALL turn over a new leaf.

 

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